Author talk:Alfred Marks

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Alfred Marks
It seems to me that bank manager and the author of Tyburn Tree are different persons. Here are my steps: 1) Blurb on Tyburn Tree refers to other works of Mr. Marks, specifically on Van Eyck; 2) Pieces on Van Eyck appeared in Athenaeum and Transactions of Royal Literature Society; 3) A bit earlier there are pieces on da Vinci by Mr. Marks also in Athenaeum and Transactions of Royal Literature Society 4) In 'The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci Volume 2 Translated by Jean Paul Richter 1888", author of the above articles is referred to as "Mr. Alfred Marks, of Long Ditton" 5) I am only able to find Alfred Pally Marks of Long Ditton, very likely the son of Mr. Marks in question. 6) If you can find anything further about Mr. Marks please let me know. I am interested in his book "Death of Sir Edmund Godfrey". Cheers, Captain Nemo (talk) 02:54, 15 August 2015 (UTC).
 * Quite possibly. It was a bit of a last minute thing yesterday, and the refs that I had were a little confused. It is on my revisit list for today, and it is why I didn't hack into WD. Once I have resolved the issue around these bot edits not bot editing, I will be able to get back to it. — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:40, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Cheers, Captain Nemo (talk) 04:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC).
 * FOREST AND FRIGGING TREES! Hoppus Marks is citing her own husband's works. This is what happens when things happen at the last moment, and one drops notes for later. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:12, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * would appear to be same person — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Great data mining. Yep, seems to be the same person, very literate for a bank manager. VIAF cluster is very confused, conflates many different people. Captain Nemo (talk) 02:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC).
 * I think that the marriage (his second), how that came about with MAMH, and his introduction to literature would be an interesting story in itself [I think that his father was a coachbuilder, though I didn't dig too far]. I am not sure that any of the authority control data is for this person, and have no comfort level with it. He is one of those obscure authors lost in time, especially where a common name exists AND the AC data is unreliable, and I think that they know it. FWIW re his work that you mentioned, seems quirky enough for my grade of editing, at the same time, it might make a really good PotM for January when we do quirky works. — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Baptism of son
Name: 	Alfred Pally Marks Baptism Date: 	10 Jun 1882 Archive Provided Parish: 	Long Ditton, St Mary Parish as it Appears: 	Long Ditton Father: 	Alfred Marks Mother: 	Emmeline Marks Reference Number: 	3833/1/6
 * Anglican Parish Registers. Woking, Surrey, England: Surrey History Centre.

Birth of son
Name: 	Alfred Pally Marks Registration Year: 	1870, Sep Q. Registration district: 	Kingston Volume: 	2a Page: 	287
 * FreeBMD birth

Census

 * England 1881; Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 839; Folio: 128; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1341198

Name: 	Alfred Marks Age: 	47 Relationship to Head: 	Head Spouse: 	Emmeline Marks Gender: 	Male Where born: 	London, London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: 	Long Ditton County/Island: 	Surrey Country: 	England Street address: 	Portsmouth Rd Marital Status: 	Married Occupation: 	Secty To A Public Comp (Clerk) Registration district: 	Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 	7 Neighbors: 	View others on page Piece: 	839 Folio: 	128 Page Number: 	7 Household Members: Name 	Age Alfred Marks 	47 Emmeline Marks 	37 Alfred P. Marks 	10 Claude Marks 	6 Mildred Marks 	5 Emmeline Marks 	4 Harriet Clark 	20 Bessie Rumbold 	17

Name: 	Alfred Marks Age: 	27 Relation: 	Son Mother's name: 	Elizabeth P Marks Gender: 	Male Where born: 	Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: 	Holborn St George the Martyr County/Island: 	Middlesex Registration district: 	Holborn Sub-registration district: 	St George the Martyr and St Andrew Western ED, institution, or vessel: 	1 Neighbors: 	View others on page Household schedule number: 	206 Piece: 	182 Folio: 	23 Page Number: 	46 Household Members: Name 	Age Elizabeth P Marks 	56 Fanny Marks 	29 Alfred Marks 	27; Clerk in Banking House Edward Marks 	25 Elizabeth Jones 	16
 * England 1861; Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 182; Folio: 23; Page: 46; GSU roll: 542587


 * England 1901; Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 124; Folio: 43; Page: 16

Name: 	Alfred Marks Age: 	67 Relation to Head: 	Head Gender: 	Male Spouse: 	Mary A M Marks Birth Place: 	Marylebone, London, England Civil Parish: 	Hampstead Ecclesiastical parish: 	St Mary the Virgin Aldermansbury County/Island: 	London Registration district: 	Hampstead Sub-registration district: 	Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 	27 Neighbors: 	View others on page Piece: 	124 Folio: 	43 Page Number: 	16 Household schedule number: 	75 Alfred Marks 	67 Bank manager (retired) Mary A M Marks 	58 Authoress Claud H I Marks 	26 Mildred F Marks 	25 Emiline Marks 	24 Matilda R McKay 	10

Probate
"MARKS Alfred of 155 Adelaide-road South Hampstead Middlesex died 1 September 1912 at Side View Londes-road Deal Probate London 19 December to Mary Anne Martha Marks widow and Alfred Pally Marks esquire. Effect £4233 0s. 7d."
 * Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. > 1912 > M > p.123

Birth
Son of John Isaac Stacy Marks (1802–1877) and Elizabeth Pally Harrison(1804-1868) (m. 1825-06-04, Saint George, Bloomsbury)

Name: 	Alfred Marks Birth Date: 	17 Sep 1833 Birth Place: 	Marylebone, Middlesex, England Gender: 	Male Event Type: 	Birth Father: 	John Isaac Mother: 	Elizabeth Pally Piece Title: 	Piece 4674:
 * Dr Williams' Library, Index to Birth Certificates, 1828-1837 (Non-conformist)